Orange Tree PUD Update
December 20th, 2011
The last blog I wrote was on behalf of Orange Tree PUD.
Unfortunately there were some people that felt I didn't know what I was
talking about since I had not attended the meetings. I don't have to
attend every meeting to know what's going on. I have my ways.
So on behalf of Tim Nance and the response about myself not knowing any details of proposed changes or objections, I would like to enlighten him and everyone else. I wanted to place this into my comments on the last blog, "Our Future and Orange Tree PUD", but decided it was best just to do another.
I have a pretty big map here the size on my desk I just pulled out which I received awhile back from a meeting with Burt Saunders. It shows the whole Orange Tree PUD master plan.
This master plan map goes on to show all land use summary. From agricultural to residential, golf course, public facilities, and more. It also shows details of certain areas called R-2, R-3, and R-4. which are residential areas to be built. MU/U which is mixed use areas, NC as neighborhood commercial and so forth. If only I could show you this map.
So back to the petition. The last couple of meetings the HOA held at Orange Tree were a mix of residents for and against this petition. Only a small crowd attended those meetings even though the petition was on the agenda for both meetings. There were a handful of objectors and a handful of residents who see this as a positive for the community.
The approximate number of real objectors at this point are around 8 to 10. There has been a petition drive that is being conducted by those objectors. A resident and member of the Homeowners Association Board of Directors have told that the petition drive has not been successful or basically saying they have not been able to get a lot of signatures.
There is a link about the Orange Tree PUD where you can read up all you want and learn all about each code and what it means. And it's just updated today! How about that. It may be hard to understand all of it since you do not have the map, but if you go to this link, maybe you can find the map too.
http://www.box.com/shared/kph6gh21yilr04ozajkk
So from here, below is the list of commitments from the developer. I feel they have done an outstanding job making these changes and working with the residents at Orange Tree.
I also want to point out that I do understand where the residents would not want their home values to go down with "affordable housing" or smaller homes built. But if built right with the villas, homes, or other designed complexes, it just may effect their values in a positive way. And at this point, how much lower can we go down on the values of our home anyway?
ORANGETREE PUD
List of additional changes to Orangetree PUD based on Collier County Planning Commission (CCPC) Hearing October 20, 2011.
Remove R-4 Section out of Valencia Golf & Country Club (VGCC)
Add internal sub gates language including exhibits and timing along Double Eagle Trail within existing residential home section of VGCC. Also update exhibit to provide assurance that future Oil Well Road and second Randall access points will be gated.Identify future recreation areas within the R-3 sections of VGCC and include timing.
Add language identifying separate HOA(s) for the R-3 section of VGCC.
Provide Market Absorption Schedule.
Restrict carports within the R-2 District.
Provide minimum sf limitation of 1250 for R-2 parcel on east side of Double Eagle Trail.
Add Max Accessory Height limitations to residential development standards.
Add 560 ft setback from Waterways parcel line for 3 story multifamily structures within the MU/U District.
Include single use restriction – only one single use per parcel shall exceed 45,000 sf to a maximum of 75,000 sf within NC commercial parcels.
Remove dog rental service under SIC 7381 – Business Service misc
Remove SIC 8093 – Health Service misc
Remove SIC 5921 – Retail Service misc, deletion of free standing liquor stores.
Exclude communication towers under SIC 4812 and 4813 – Telecommunications.
Exclude truck driving schools under SIC 8243 – 8299 – Vocational Schools.
Provide minimum setback of 50 ft for dumpsters within NC district.
Shift SIC 7991 Physical Fitness to Permitted Accessory Use within OC District.
Move multifamily development standards from Residential section into the MU/U section.
Add Future Access Point Language covering Oil Well and second Randall access point for construction traffic – identify timing.
Add condition related to construction damage resulting from building within the R-2 district east of Double Eagle Trail within the existing residential home section of VGCC.
Include location map/exhibit associated with landscape buffer exhibits.
Noise and lighting restrictions within the NC District apply to OC and Mu/U.
Guest Houses only on single family lots of 1 acres or larger.
Orange Blossom Ranch access point removed.
Based on September 15, 2011 CCPC Public comments, meeting with Valencia Golf and County Club members, meeting with Valencia Lakes HOA members, and an additional residential meeting held on Thursday September 22, 2011 at VGCC Clubhouse the applicant will be requesting the following changes to the current application files on record:
Remove Resort Lodging Units
Revise R-3 and R-4 sections within and adjacent to VL to R-2 and R-3 respectively.
Revise one R-4 section within VGCC to R-3.
Decrease request of 1250 residential units by 200 to 1050 requested residential units.
Decrease request of 3 story 45 Ft Zoned/60 ft Actual within commercial NC and OC Districts to 2 story 35 ft Zoned/42 Ft Actual.
It's alot to take in and trying to understand it without this map is tough, but try to be opened minded. I truly do feel this will be great for the community in the future.
So on behalf of Tim Nance and the response about myself not knowing any details of proposed changes or objections, I would like to enlighten him and everyone else. I wanted to place this into my comments on the last blog, "Our Future and Orange Tree PUD", but decided it was best just to do another.
I have a pretty big map here the size on my desk I just pulled out which I received awhile back from a meeting with Burt Saunders. It shows the whole Orange Tree PUD master plan.
This master plan map goes on to show all land use summary. From agricultural to residential, golf course, public facilities, and more. It also shows details of certain areas called R-2, R-3, and R-4. which are residential areas to be built. MU/U which is mixed use areas, NC as neighborhood commercial and so forth. If only I could show you this map.
So back to the petition. The last couple of meetings the HOA held at Orange Tree were a mix of residents for and against this petition. Only a small crowd attended those meetings even though the petition was on the agenda for both meetings. There were a handful of objectors and a handful of residents who see this as a positive for the community.
The approximate number of real objectors at this point are around 8 to 10. There has been a petition drive that is being conducted by those objectors. A resident and member of the Homeowners Association Board of Directors have told that the petition drive has not been successful or basically saying they have not been able to get a lot of signatures.
There is a link about the Orange Tree PUD where you can read up all you want and learn all about each code and what it means. And it's just updated today! How about that. It may be hard to understand all of it since you do not have the map, but if you go to this link, maybe you can find the map too.
http://www.box.com/shared/kph6gh21yilr04ozajkk
So from here, below is the list of commitments from the developer. I feel they have done an outstanding job making these changes and working with the residents at Orange Tree.
I also want to point out that I do understand where the residents would not want their home values to go down with "affordable housing" or smaller homes built. But if built right with the villas, homes, or other designed complexes, it just may effect their values in a positive way. And at this point, how much lower can we go down on the values of our home anyway?
ORANGETREE PUD
List of additional changes to Orangetree PUD based on Collier County Planning Commission (CCPC) Hearing October 20, 2011.
Remove R-4 Section out of Valencia Golf & Country Club (VGCC)
Add internal sub gates language including exhibits and timing along Double Eagle Trail within existing residential home section of VGCC. Also update exhibit to provide assurance that future Oil Well Road and second Randall access points will be gated.Identify future recreation areas within the R-3 sections of VGCC and include timing.
Add language identifying separate HOA(s) for the R-3 section of VGCC.
Provide Market Absorption Schedule.
Restrict carports within the R-2 District.
Provide minimum sf limitation of 1250 for R-2 parcel on east side of Double Eagle Trail.
Add Max Accessory Height limitations to residential development standards.
Add 560 ft setback from Waterways parcel line for 3 story multifamily structures within the MU/U District.
Include single use restriction – only one single use per parcel shall exceed 45,000 sf to a maximum of 75,000 sf within NC commercial parcels.
Remove dog rental service under SIC 7381 – Business Service misc
Remove SIC 8093 – Health Service misc
Remove SIC 5921 – Retail Service misc, deletion of free standing liquor stores.
Exclude communication towers under SIC 4812 and 4813 – Telecommunications.
Exclude truck driving schools under SIC 8243 – 8299 – Vocational Schools.
Provide minimum setback of 50 ft for dumpsters within NC district.
Shift SIC 7991 Physical Fitness to Permitted Accessory Use within OC District.
Move multifamily development standards from Residential section into the MU/U section.
Add Future Access Point Language covering Oil Well and second Randall access point for construction traffic – identify timing.
Add condition related to construction damage resulting from building within the R-2 district east of Double Eagle Trail within the existing residential home section of VGCC.
Include location map/exhibit associated with landscape buffer exhibits.
Noise and lighting restrictions within the NC District apply to OC and Mu/U.
Guest Houses only on single family lots of 1 acres or larger.
Orange Blossom Ranch access point removed.
Based on September 15, 2011 CCPC Public comments, meeting with Valencia Golf and County Club members, meeting with Valencia Lakes HOA members, and an additional residential meeting held on Thursday September 22, 2011 at VGCC Clubhouse the applicant will be requesting the following changes to the current application files on record:
Remove Resort Lodging Units
Revise R-3 and R-4 sections within and adjacent to VL to R-2 and R-3 respectively.
Revise one R-4 section within VGCC to R-3.
Decrease request of 1250 residential units by 200 to 1050 requested residential units.
Decrease request of 3 story 45 Ft Zoned/60 ft Actual within commercial NC and OC Districts to 2 story 35 ft Zoned/42 Ft Actual.
It's alot to take in and trying to understand it without this map is tough, but try to be opened minded. I truly do feel this will be great for the community in the future.
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